Heroine Detox
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Can we make a comment regarding the movie "Pulp Fiction" where they inject adrenaline in the heart, this would be useless and of course dangerous.
The most common way to treat Heroin is the opiate blocking drug naloxone which reverse heroin overdose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.200.220.139 (talk) 13:48, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Medical use - UK
I don't have an acct and don't really feel the urge of setting one up today. However, could someone please make the following edits. 1. cite the NHS (uk national health) http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/pregnancy/Pages/Painrelief.aspx article on pain relief in pregnancy. Diamorphine is regularly given to mothers in labour (and not for the article but just for your info there are three reasons. 1. it's good pain relief 2. it delays the chance of c section by request as the mother feels "better" about things, 3. It is reverseable with less side effects). Note, Morphine (which is used in the UK for mid range cronic and post op pain) is not given.
2. There is a bit in the UK medical section, where it suggests that hospitals switched to morphine. It's unsupported by the article published by United Kingdom Harm Reduction Alliance UKHRA - which is a pressure group. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.36.35.131 (talk) 20:38, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
And on another topic
3. Also should consider whether citation 43, "Toxic Substances in water" is really a credible citation, given the source is a k12 high school report by a pupil with no onward citation? If this is a quality citation, let me remind you that my son's homework says that oliver cromwell was a very bad man, does that make it a reliable citation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.36.35.131 (talk) 21:22, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
4. Dosage info from the NHS for various opiates, including diamorphine. http://www.yacpalliativecare.com/documents/download70.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.36.35.131 (talk) 21:24, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Controversy with the controversy section.
The beginning of the controversy section reads as follows: "It has been claimed that sustained use of heroin for as little as three days can cause withdrawal symptoms to appear if use is stopped, and the myth that "just one shot will hook you for life" has been one of the many sensationalist claims made about the drug. A belief in its overwhelming ability to addict anyone who tries it is one of the main justifications for heroin's continuing prohibition. "
There are obviously many perceived negative sides to heroine. I am sure there are plenty of myths and/or misinformation sensationalizing how negative a drug may be. However, I don't understand how anyone can pinpoint a myth as being a main justification for a drug's continued prohibition. It certainly isn't cited in the legal documents as the main reason. The main justification, or most negative side of heroine is opinion, not fact.
That being said, the statement in bold has a clear POV. It cites a myth as the main reason for laws against heroine, thus implying that the reasons for heroine prohibition are not based in reality. Since this conclusion is based on opinion, I suggest this section be rewritten. Aykantspel (talk) 21:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
etymology
Interestingly, the dictionaries give different sources for the name Heroin: Merriam Webster Collegiate attributes it to a trademark of that name from 1898, whereas the Shorter Oxford has: "German, formed as HERO (from its effect on the user's perception of his or her personality)"; Concise Oxford has: "C19: from Ger. Heroin, from L. heros 'hero' (because of its effects on the user's self-esteem)."
I always thought that it came from the German "heroisch", meaning heroic, and a pharmaceutical suffix -in...unfortunately, I can't cite that. 137.85.171.47 (talk) 15:07, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Side effects lacking citations
death!
No sources are provided for any of the side effects,though for all we know half (mostlikly more) of them could be untrue or extremely rare. This is especially likely given the amount of poor research and misinformation spread by the government about various illegal drugs. To me this almost seems grounds for deletion of that entire side-bar until proper citation can be given. Also, it seems to me that the rarity of the side effects should be noted as well. Thoughts? -- itistoday (Talk) 13:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Can I say Bump???
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.222.210.4 (talk) 00:56, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Suicide *or* Physician-Assisted Suicide?
a) I agree with previous note! The causal link between concealability and profitability is too tenuous to be stated as it is; that heroin is potent contributes to its profitability, surely, but that's not the only factor. The strength of the cravings its users have seems equally important -- the example by comparison of LSD (not physically addictive) is a good illustration.
b) As of now, the article says "The drug can be used for suicide or, as in the case of Sigmund Freud, physician-assisted suicide." This makes it sound like physician-assisted suicide is a discrete category outside the universe of "suicide." Would distinguishing rather between "suicide" and "euthanasia" be an appropriate change? Also, a link merely to "Sigmund Freud" doesn't explain Freud's connection to physician-assisted suicide. Did he practice it on patients? Did he ask his own doctor for an overdose?
timbo 17:43, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
The sigmund frued reference is also out of place as morphine and not heroin was administered to him.
bad link
Link gives The Page you requested is unavailable. --MikaelRo 23:22, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Rename to "Diamorphine"
This article was moved from Heroin to Diamorphine without any apparent discussion or consensus so it has been reverted. As far as I can tell, "heroin" is the older and more established name for the drug while "diamorphine" is used primarily (or exclusively) in the UK as a generic prescription name. This would be analagous to having the THC article renamed to "dronabinol". The unscientific google test shows about 200,000 hits for diamorphine and over 17 million for heroin. --Bk0 (Talk) 17:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Diamorphine is the proper name in britain where i am from but since International Nonproprietary Names are supposed to be used it should be Diacetylmorphine.
As far as I am aware, whilst diacetylmorphine is a recognised synonym for heroin/ diamorphine, an INN does not exist for the molecule.193.129.185.28 14:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, Valium and Viagra (or Diazepam and Sildenafil) are sold under countless brand names around the world. It makes sense to use the generic name. As far as heroin goes, "heroin" *is* the generic name. "Diamorphine" is, to my knowledge, only used in the UK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.15.21 (talk) 18:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
If it is to be renamed it would be to "Diacetylmorphine" not 'diamorphine' which is a the British only usage. Besides "diamorphine" sounds too much like "die of morphine" / "die o' morphine" - I was having a conversation about morphine and someone brought up that heroin was diamorphine and they responded that "it is unlikely you'd die of morphine" etc. so it is a little too confusing in spoken language. Whereas saying "diacetylmorphine", well, no one will be confusing you thinking you're saying "die ass til morphine" because that would be a highly odd and peculiar manner of speech that would not be understood in any urban dialect that I am familiar with as having any meaning whatsoever. 4.255.51.153 (talk) 01:59, 23 Novembe
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